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Quotation[2] = "I don’t want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -Woody Allen";
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Quotation[7] = "This gamble involves the value of life, the cost of (cryonics), the odds that the technology will work (which seem excellent), and the odds that humanity will survive, develop the technology, and revive people. -Dr. K. Eric Drexler (originator of molecular nanotechnology), from Engines of Creation, Chapter 9";
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Not logged in | Login | Create AccountSearch Post SomethingFunding risk View Entire Thread - Charles Platt on Nov 29, 2008, 6:51 PMpolitics - Edward-M on Nov 29, 2008, 7:14 PMReformatted version - Charles Platt on Nov 29, 2008, 7:58 PMDoes that mean - TWrelated on Nov 29, 2008, 8:04 PMit means - Charles Platt on Nov 29, 2008, 8:43 PMThe gambles of increasing membership, and economies of scale - Finance Department on Nov 29, 2008, 10:47 PMnew members paying for old - charles platt on Nov 30, 2008, 9:13 AMNot necessarily - Finance Department on Nov 30, 2008, 11:41 AMCI only grandfathers-in pre-pay members. - Edward-M on Nov 30, 2008, 11:56 AMCI's future policy on grandfathering - Charles Platt on Nov 30, 2008, 3:40 PMI wonder why CI does that - Finance Department on Nov 30, 2008, 8:43 PMpyramids etc - Charles Platt on Nov 30, 2008, 3:52 PMCharles Platt--the low-income cryonicists' worst enemy - unperson on Nov 30, 2008, 5:49 PMall hail to our Lords of Cryo-Discipline - unperson on Dec 1, 2008, 8:07 PMAgain, not necessarily ,,., - Finance Department on Nov 30, 2008, 8:44 PMSilence About Reanimation Process Expenses - George on Dec 1, 2008, 2:41 AMI have news for you! - Edward-M on Dec 1, 2008, 9:02 AMRe: I have news for you! - George on Dec 1, 2008, 4:57 PMI've raised that question - TWrelated on Dec 2, 2008, 11:17 AMre: - Edward-M on Dec 2, 2008, 12:22 PMGetting What You Pay For - Melody Maxim on Nov 30, 2008, 11:17 AMBleak assessment - sirdanny on Dec 1, 2008, 9:14 AMRe: Bleak assessment - Melody Maxim on Dec 2, 2008, 8:44 AMLEF's cargo cult science - Iskander Khan on Dec 2, 2008, 9:59 AM Steve Van Sickle - Why Did You Leave? View Entire Thread - Finance Department on Nov 25, 2008, 11:41 PMAnd how much of Alcor's money did SVS take with him? - Iskander Khan on Nov 26, 2008, 10:07 AMspecifics please - charles platt on Nov 27, 2008, 12:44 PMSpeculation - Melody Maxim on Nov 30, 2008, 12:06 PMLEF's cargo-cultism - Iskander Khan on Nov 30, 2008, 1:02 PM Response to Larry McElhinney View Entire Thread - Cairn Idun on Nov 11, 2008, 6:36 PMThe other thread is locked - CF Help on Nov 11, 2008, 9:45 PMCairn Idun continues her embarrassing charade... - Larry McElhinney on Nov 12, 2008, 6:39 PMCryonics Society website - why was a document removed? - FD on Nov 12, 2008, 9:09 PM"Will Vs. Trusts" being replaced by an update. - Cairn on Nov 13, 2008, 2:20 PMThanks! - Finance Department on Nov 13, 2008, 9:02 PMcryonics society behavior - charles platt on Nov 14, 2008, 1:44 PMWhat do I know? - Finance Department on Nov 14, 2008, 10:15 PMpure nonsense - unperson on Nov 15, 2008, 3:25 AMAlmost All Documents Are Now on the Website - Finance Department on Nov 25, 2008, 12:19 PMReanimation Foundation non-web posting is a legal restriction - Cairn on Nov 30, 2008, 12:11 PM Thank you, Mr. Ettinger View Entire Thread - Bill on Nov 27, 2008, 8:13 PMI second that, FWIW! - Finance Department on Nov 27, 2008, 8:31 PMalternate histories - charles platt on Nov 28, 2008, 7:43 PMRe: alternate histories - Ken on Nov 30, 2008, 1:02 AM  Is Cryonics a science, religion or a cult? View Entire Thread - TWrelated on Nov 25, 2008, 12:55 PMRe: Is Cryonics a science, religion or a cult? - salyavin on Nov 25, 2008, 2:55 PMA religion or cult because - TWrelated on Nov 25, 2008, 5:07 PMre: pure bullshit - Edward-M on Nov 25, 2008, 7:56 PMRe: re: pure bullshit - George on Nov 26, 2008, 12:32 AMAre you kidding me? - Edward-M on Nov 26, 2008, 12:46 AMNo answers here, only hostility - DesertRat on Nov 26, 2008, 8:33 AMcult attributes - charles platt on Nov 27, 2008, 12:52 PMRe: cult attributes - DesertRat on Nov 28, 2008, 8:26 AMUm, so charles platt is a cultist? - Edward-M on Nov 28, 2008, 11:45 AMha ha - charles platt on Nov 28, 2008, 7:53 PMIt is what it is. - DesertRat on Nov 29, 2008, 9:10 AMit isn't what it isn't - Charles Platt on Nov 29, 2008, 2:42 PMI rest my case! - DesertRat on Nov 29, 2008, 5:04 PMHave you ever been employed? - Charles Platt on Nov 29, 2008, 6:34 PMyep. Ya gotta watch out for Platt and that cult stuff. He has a history - unperson on Nov 28, 2008, 11:07 PM"Imbalanced" body mods - Iskander Khan on Nov 29, 2008, 11:02 AMHardly. Not even close - Regina Pancake on Nov 26, 2008, 2:25 AMThe cost - TWrelated on Nov 27, 2008, 12:30 PMRe: Troll - Edward-M on Nov 27, 2008, 1:17 PMHuh? - TWrelated on Nov 27, 2008, 2:28 PMLaziness and blind faith - charles platt on Nov 28, 2008, 7:33 PMDouble huh? - TWrelated on Nov 29, 2008, 12:31 PMlaziness is laziness - Charles Platt on Nov 29, 2008, 2:48 PMYou're right, I'm wrong - TWrelated on Nov 29, 2008, 4:31 PMfunding issues - Charles Platt on Nov 29, 2008, 6:32 PMIs cryonics "religulous"? - Iskander Khan on Nov 26, 2008, 5:06 PMWe don't have to "harass" non-cryonicists. - Iskander Khan on Nov 26, 2008, 4:54 PMThe need for - TWrelated on Nov 27, 2008, 12:23 PMCryonics isn't eternal - Edward-M on Nov 27, 2008, 12:33 PMRe: Cryonics isn't eternal - George on Nov 27, 2008, 1:08 PMOh George! - Edward-M on Nov 27, 2008, 1:23 PMYes - TWrelated on Nov 27, 2008, 2:36 PMBorn again? - Bill on Nov 27, 2008, 2:59 PM...... - Edward-M on Nov 27, 2008, 3:16 PMYou are just proving his point - George on Nov 28, 2008, 1:50 AMWe cannot really imagine ourselves dead. - Iskander Khan on Nov 27, 2008, 11:55 PMthat is why cryonics will not take off until there is proof of revival. UNLESS.... - unperson on Nov 28, 2008, 1:09 AMUNreasonable - Edward-M on Nov 28, 2008, 1:55 AMHope vs. Belief - Finance Department on Nov 27, 2008, 8:33 PMnot a science, religion, nor cult - dan on Nov 28, 2008, 8:04 PMThank you - TWrelated on Nov 29, 2008, 12:33 PMNecessary steps to become a cult - Charles Platt on Nov 29, 2008, 6:40 PMStart a New Thread - CF Help on Nov 29, 2008, 10:22 PM The mysterious Jennifer Chapman of Alcor View Entire Thread - Finance Department on Nov 15, 2008, 12:35 AMmaybe a phone call would help - Charles Platt on Nov 15, 2008, 5:15 AMMaybe Some Openness Would Also Help - George on Nov 15, 2008, 10:48 AMSomebody please do call Alcor! - Finance Department on Nov 15, 2008, 11:27 PMDial *67, FD... - Melody Maxim on Nov 16, 2008, 8:39 AMOr better yet, 867-5309 and ask for Jenny(fer)! - Finance Department on Nov 16, 2008, 10:30 PMSupporting References - Finance Department on Nov 17, 2008, 2:35 AMwell here's a suggestion - charles platt on Nov 18, 2008, 12:45 AMApologies - Finance Department on Nov 18, 2008, 1:27 AMnutty - Charles Platt on Nov 18, 2008, 3:59 AMBy all means...let's all be "nice" and not "piss people off" - Melody Maxim on Nov 18, 2008, 8:45 AMSometimes maybe too nice? - Finance Department on Nov 19, 2008, 12:58 AMThey Think the Truth is Hell - George on Nov 18, 2008, 11:54 AMAlcor Rewrites Chapman Bio, Again - Finance Department on Nov 27, 2008, 8:32 PM Don't do us any more favors, Dr. Thorp. View Entire Thread - Iskander Khan on Nov 25, 2008, 6:47 PM Hey, Mark Plus, Come Out To Play. Gas is $1.74 here in texas. Let's go drag racing! View Entire Thread - unperson on Nov 20, 2008, 2:40 PM Time Ship ? View Entire Thread - Regina Pancake on Nov 16, 2008, 11:41 AMSilence is Golden - Melody Maxim on Nov 16, 2008, 3:12 PMThe Paradigm of Secrecy - Finance Department on Nov 16, 2008, 10:32 PMGeorge Dvorsky reports on Tanya Jones' talk at Convergence 08 - Finance Department on Nov 17, 2008, 12:44 AMI think Dvorsky has a crush on Tanya. - Iskander Khan on Nov 19, 2008, 12:25 AMthat dawg! - unperson on Nov 20, 2008, 2:15 PM this is how some of us will wind up. View Entire Thread - unperson on Nov 17, 2008, 7:42 PMand just get a load of some of the comments under the video - unperson on Nov 17, 2008, 7:45 PMRick Potvin in about 10 years? - Iskander Khan on Nov 19, 2008, 12:20 AMyeah, we gotta worry about that dude - unperson on Nov 20, 2008, 2:14 PM I don't remove posts by request... View Entire Thread - CF Mod on Nov 20, 2008, 11:48 AM How can we promote cryonics? View Entire Thread - Bill on Nov 10, 2008, 5:24 PMRe: How can we promote cryonics? - salyavin on Nov 10, 2008, 8:09 PMsex and religion - unperson on Nov 10, 2008, 8:34 PMRe: sex and religion - salyavin on Nov 10, 2008, 8:46 PMSex and religion: agreed. - Bill on Nov 11, 2008, 2:07 PMLEF - Melody Maxim on Nov 11, 2008, 9:29 AMWhere does CI fit in all of this, Melody? - Bill on Nov 11, 2008, 9:55 AMRe: Where does CI fit in all of this, Melody? - Melody Maxim on Nov 16, 2008, 10:09 AMRe: LEF - salyavin on Nov 11, 2008, 12:49 PMWrong question - Ken on Nov 19, 2008, 3:52 AMRe: Wrong question - salyavin on Nov 19, 2008, 9:24 PMCommon sense - Ken on Nov 19, 2008, 3:31 AMRe: Common sense - salyavin on Nov 19, 2008, 9:33 PM Cryonics on CBS tonight--never fails--Hollywood/media ALWAYS same take on cryonics. View Entire Thread - unperson on Nov 13, 2008, 10:49 PMMore of the "same take" from the self-admitted un-person - Finance Department on Nov 14, 2008, 1:49 AMIt was fun to be sure - Regina Pancake on Nov 14, 2008, 10:17 AMRe: It was fun to be sure - DesertRat on Nov 14, 2008, 4:19 PMYou volunteering? - unperson on Nov 14, 2008, 5:52 PMOMG - DesertRat on Nov 15, 2008, 1:05 PMTotally Preposterous! - Finance Department on Nov 16, 2008, 1:22 AMJulian Conrad Way Out of Control - DesertRat on Nov 15, 2008, 2:00 PM Options for Safe, Secure, Legal Asset Preservation for Post-Resuscitation Access: Cont'd View Entire Thread - Finance Department on Nov 6, 2008, 9:02 PMCall Me "Skeptical" - Melody Maxim on Nov 11, 2008, 10:07 AMBetter Safe Than Sorry and Permanently Dead - George on Nov 13, 2008, 4:32 PMCould you clarify what you mean? - Finance Department on Nov 13, 2008, 9:03 PMDo Not Rely on Future Governments - George on Nov 14, 2008, 2:13 AM Death with Dignity Referendum Passed in Washington State View Entire Thread - George on Nov 6, 2008, 3:04 PMSounds like good places for a cryo organization - salyavin on Nov 6, 2008, 3:50 PMOne more state where one might choose temporary death on one's own terms - Finance Department on Nov 7, 2008, 1:36 AMMore of Such Places Where it is Legal - George on Nov 12, 2008, 11:58 AM 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 Next >> Visitors in this forum in the last 10 minutes: 2 Visitors2 guests |
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